Reclaiming the Scriptures

“Loose the chains of injustice … Set the oppressed free.”
-Isaiah 58:6

Welcome to our forum & resources page on Scriptures.

In SCM’s open spirit, our page on the Bible is a community discussion instead of just giving ‘definitive answers’ on each passage. Simply upload your own commentary using the comment box below (please provide passage links using the Bible search below as well).

Eventually, it would be great to have Scriptures as a forum category, with sub-discussions on each passage. SCM Bible Commentary, here we come! Post and enjoy.

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    Criticisms of SCM's position on sexuality

    This commentary is in response to an anonymous posting attached to our Resolution on Sexuality and Homophobia (along with some other interesting debate). I personally think the sexuality statement should be more theologically grounded.

    Thank you for taking an interest in our statement on Sexuality and Homophobia. In future, it helps debate if you can identify yourself (you are more than welcome to register a login name and participate in some of our forums on scripture, theology, etc).

    I can attempt to address your concerns, but I don’t speak for the movement, just how I understand it.

    1) Read our mission statement. The first line is “We are the Student Christian Movement because we feel called to engage the prophetic teachings of the revolutionary Jesus of Nazareth.” Obviously, since almost the entirety of our knowledge about Jesus is in the Bible, we look to the Bible to discern what Christ calls us to, and also “God’s will for the world and to understand our role in it.”

    2) If you wish to understand how we understand God’s word on the question of homosexuality, see our pamphlet on Homophobia in the Churches - it has scripture resources (also available on our scriptures forum). All of the passages supposedly condemning homosexuality are, in our understanding, actually condemning sins of inhospitality, collusion with the Roman Empire, or contextual aspects of ancient Hebrew society.

    If you believe homosexuality is ‘perversion’, then do you wear clothing of multiple fabrics? When was the last time you cut an animal in half and walked between it? It seems you are critiquing us for selective reading of the Bible… but I don’t think anyone can claim to follow it 100 per cent. Correct me if I’m wrong.

    3. What is the “very basic teaching of Christianity” of which you speak? For me, this teaching is the liberation promised in Jesus. That’s built on the teachings of Christ (found in his Sermon on the Mount, his proscription to love your neighbour as yourself as one of the highest laws, and throughout the Gospels).

    Even St. Paul warns against judging others’ lifestyles and beliefs, when our arrogance itself is called into account. (see Romans 2:1).

    I hope you are interested in discussing this - feel free to continue this conversation in the spirit of reconciliation and love.

    In Christ the Liberator,
    david

    Some honesty about where I'm at.

    I grew up Evangelical - one might almost say I was a Bible-thumper. But I'm also a gay man, and I've had to struggle to hear the Bible's liberating message. Right now in my journey, I'm not sure that the Bible is my friend in general, even though I fight for its centrality in Christian experience; the Bible feels more like an authoritarian parent than a way of hearing the Living Word of Christ. Maybe that's because I think I might be pretty good at ignoring the inconvenient bits that might not jive with my view of justice or how reality is structured.

    I am a teacher. I don't mean professionally, I mean motivationally. Ask any of my friends, and they'll tell you its true. I note this to affirm that any comments I make will not try to be "definitive" even though I do think there are "bad" ways of handling sacred texts in particular. I think that teaching is something like: within my own awareness of the presence of God using the best tools I have at my disposal, I interpret the text and invite my conversation partners to experience the living God speaking in and through the text. If I can do this, I am a "good" teacher. Does that make any sense? Anyway, it's quarter to five in the morning and I need sleep. :)

    In peace,
    Rob

    Is the Bible our friend?

    Thanks for your thoughts, Rob. I've struggled a lot myself with the Bible. When I first became 'Christian' (ie. self-identified as a disciple of Jesus and took refuge in his baptism) I couldn't stand the so-called sacred text because of all the baggage of history and how it was abused.

    While I still see much in the books that makes me cringe (all the us-versus-them talk of the Hebrew Bible and the self-repressed moralizing of Paul's letters) I'm becoming more and more convinced that the Bible does represent quite an incredible tradition - how many places can we find thousands of years of stories of struggle, liberation, heart-break and healing recorded, warts and all?

    I don't take the Bible as 'literal truth' but neither do I see it as just 'stories' or 'myth' that I can take or leave. A real encounter with the living Word of God - in both scriptures and our world - has been liberating to me and also to oppressed people who seek liberation not only in the material world but also from a spiritual seeking place.

    Is the Bible our friend? It depends how it is used, by whom, and for what purpose. That's why we need to understand the underlying fibre of the scriptures in general to be about liberation, salvation-in-history, and right relations. If some parts seem to contradict this, then we are meant to learn from the mistakes recorded; if some parts don't make sense now, maybe they will one day.

    I never want to become a Bible-thumper, but I do think that the Bible is becoming a cantankerous friend in my spiritual practice and not an enemy anymore.

    Bible passage abused for homophobia (Part 2)

    Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13

    “If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall be put to death; their blood is upon them.”


    The word usually translated as abomination, in Hebrew toevah, does not refer to an intrinsic evil such as rape or theft. It refers here to something which is ritually unclean - such as sex during menstruation. The prohibitions in the Jewish Holiness Codes function as symbols of Jewish distinctiveness in the face of neighbouring idolatry. This text also prohibits the wearing of clothes made from a blend of mixed textiles, the eating of pigs, seafood, rabbits… The authority of these Codes for Christians created a fierce dispute in the early Christian communities (Acts 15). Although the Codes were put aside by early Christianity, some Church Fathers occasionally referred to them to support their arguments.

    The story of Sodom and Gomorrah is understood erroneously by many to condemn homosexuality. The word “sodomy” is derived from this passage. The local mob in the story appear to have wanted to rape (Hebrew word yada translated as “to know”) the visitors of Sodom. Lot refused, and in an attempt to follow the ancient law of hospitality, he offered his daughters to be raped instead!?! The sin in this story is not homosexuality, as it has traditionally been taught, but inhospitable and abusive behaviour (rape) towards strangers. See the parallel story in Judges 19. References to Sodom and Gomorrah in the Bible do not specifically mention homosexuality as the sin to which caused the destruction of Sodom.

    Commentary from SCM’s Stop Homophobia in the Churches pamphlet (c. 2000, Mario DeGiglio-Bellemare)

    Bible passage abused for homophobia (Part 1)

    Genesis 18:16 - 19:38

    The two angels came to Sodom in the evening, and Lot was sitting in the gateway of Sodom. When Lot saw them, he rose to meet them, and bowed down with his face to the ground. He said, “Please, my lords, turn aside to your servant’s house and spend the night… But before they lay down, the men of the city, the men of Sodom, both young and old, all the people to the last man, surrounded the house; and they called to Lot, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us, so that we may know [i.e. rape] them.”


    The story of Sodom and Gomorrah is understood erroneously by many to condemn homosexuality. The word “sodomy” is derived from this passage. The local mob in the story appear to have wanted to rape (Hebrew word yada translated as “to know”) the visitors of Sodom. Lot refused, and in an attempt to follow the ancient law of hospitality, he offered his daughters to be raped instead!?! The sin in this story is not homosexuality, as it has traditionally been taught, but inhospitable and abusive behaviour (rape) towards strangers. See the parallel story in Judges 19. References to Sodom and Gomorrah in the Bible do not specifically mention homosexuality as the sin to which caused the destruction of Sodom.

    (See Deuteronomy 29:23, Isaiah 13:19, Jeremiah 50:39, Ezekiel 14:49, Matthew 11:23, Luke 17:29, 2 Peter 2:6, Jude 7 and Revelations 11:7)

    Commentary from SCM’s Stop Homophobia in the Churches pamphlet (c. 2000, Mario DeGiglio-Bellemare)

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